The only goal I have is to obtain the lowest ES and SD I possibly can. After I am happy with my set-up, I take a position similar to that of a conventional prone shooter. Thanks in advance Share. But the velocity changes were pretty easy to read from the mirage. 0.350. As we commenced load development, Jerry Tierney’s .284 Win load data posted on this website gave us a good starting point. After getting in late one Saturday night, I forgot to clean my rifle. In February of 2008, NSSC held its annual winter Palma match. For shooters who are not sold on the .284 Winchester, I give you a real-world ballistics shoot-off. I quit cleaning every relay after reading Mr. Tierney’s article, but I would still clean on Saturday night after I got home. Seeing is believing! Excellence - Integrity - Service. The stock by Precision Rifle & Tool has a 3"-longer fore-end which solves the problem. After trying Federal 210m primers, CCI BR-2 primers, light tension, heavy tension, jamming, jumping, we settled on 56.0+ grains of H4831sc with CCI BR-2 primers. Not shooting free recoil, I needed a stock that would fit me like a prone stock but track like a benchrest stock. The following data was developed in a Hall action fitted with a Hart … I have to say that I have never worked with a 6.5-284 so I don't have personal load data on this one. data **includes new A-Tip® Match load data Bullet. My .284 barrel now has 1,036 rounds, and by all indications it will shoot well to 3,000+ rounds. In my case it will be with a Krieger 9 twist 1.250 no taper 30 inch bbl. B.C. The cases we had previously used for load development were first necked-up with Ray’s expander mandrel and then run through the Redding bushing dies. At 200 yards the figures are 2344 fps and 1830 ft. lbs. Cases are full-length resized, but I bump the shoulders only .0005" (one-half thousandth). If you are interested in the most recent data for cartridges and/or bullet weights/styles not listed on this page, contact Barnes Consumer Service department to inquire about recommended loads and approximate timing for the data to be made available via email at customerservice@barnesbullets.com or by phone at 800.574.9200.. 107 SW Columbia St | Bend, Oregon, USA 97702 | Toll Free: 1-800-285-3701 | catalog@nosler.com The purple .284 balances very well and tracks great. Nobody I spoke with had ever experienced this problem until I spoke with a very knowledgeable F-Class shooter named Andy Amber. Finally the Jewell trigger received its final adjustment at 5 ounces. Dealer Locator; Online Stores; Company. I predominantly shoot and adjust my aim based on mirage. Lead Free Bullet Data. In this match I found the first weakness in my beloved .284. I also sought barrel life that would be far superior to that of a 7mm WSM or 6.5-284. from a 24" test barrel. I'll be shooting Hornady 162 ELD-M projectiles. The average cost of a barrel, chambered and fitted, is $500.00. Let’s just say it didn’t go as planned. On Saturday my .284 was absolutely hammering, but Sunday I started noticing a hard bolt lift. I then push one wet patch of Eliminator through the bore and leave it. A few days later Ray invited me to visit his shop. Using these figures, the barrel cost of a .284 Win is $.17 per round vs. $.42 per round for the 6.5-284. Amazingly the buttplate was fitted to the stock, and the cheek-piece and hardware were installed. After a recent varmint rifle build using the 284 Winchester case (TVHA issue 84) I made a mention that a barrel was on order for a 22-284 Winchester chambering. The 6mm-284 has greater powder capacity than either the 6mm Remington or 243 Winchester, but velocity gains possible with the wildcat are marginal—at least in our test experience. But, the added recoil of the .284, even with front and rear rests aligned, took me off target. Thread starter RNWRKNP; Start date Nov 17, 2018; Forums. However, to truly compare the cost of shooting the two calibers you must figure in barrel life. The cost of reloading the .284 Win is roughly $.07 more per round than that of the 6.5-284. Hodgdon ®, IMR ® and Winchester ® powders neither assume nor authorize any person to assume for it any liability in connection with the use of any product or data. For cost comparisons sake, let’s use 1,200 rounds for the 6.5-284 and 3,000 rounds for the .284 Win. After record fire begins I shoot very fast, holding off for the wind. To secure the heavy barreled action, the action screws were replaced with larger socket-head cap screws. Ease of Load Tuning Using three shooters, we shot all three guns at the same time so the wind effects were exactly the same. After sizing, the case mouths are cleaned with a spinning bronze brush. When the 20th shot came up a 10, it was hard to control my excitement. The wind was running left to right, with 3-4 mph let-offs. For these photos, he removed his safety glasses. I had committed a big reloading "No-No". Powder charges are dispensed and weighed with an RCBS ChargeMaster Electronic Dispenser, which is regularly calibrated with check-weights to assure accuracy. Despite what has been written to the contrary, Winchester was 100 percent successful in that endeavor; when compared to the .270, the .284 launched bullets of comparable weight slightly faster. Now the beautiful purple and black laminated stock was ready to receive multiple coats of gloss automotive clear-coat. Finally all the cases are run through a Redding Type 'S' FL sizing die with .312" neck bushing. I remembered this as I was preparing to shoot the first relay Sunday morning. Posts: 4,406. western michigan. RL17 works very well in my R77 barreled in 284 Win using 160 gr Partitions. This rifle project began several years ago. I'll make my wind call while the target is in the pits; if my previous shot went where I thought it would I will take my next shot as soon as the target stops. I'm building a 284 winchester on a savage short action and wondered if anyone knew what the maximum amount of freebore you could have. Campfire Guide. The same has proven true of my .284 Winchester--vertical improves once 50 rounds are through the bore. Ballistician Testing Data ; Drawings And Prints ; News & Articles Search the site. 0.284 Bullets , Hunt , Rifle Optimal jacket wall thickness controls expansion and retains weight Open pocket under the polymer tip expands lead core instantly on impact Tuned ogive for industry-leading BC Boat tail design for stable flight and accuracy Introducing the Sierra GameChanger hunting bullet: the perfect combination of Sierra’s legendary match accuracy coupled with deadly penetration. My philosophy on load development differs from many shooters. It's hard for me not to give credit to my .284 chambering as I feel it played a big part in setting this record. I chose this action based on BAT Machine's impeccable reputation. Nov 17, 2018 #1 I don’t think this cartridge is really that popular anymore but had occasion to fix a 25-06 problem child with a bad barrel that has a rockstar … Can I take the 280 data reduce by 10% and work up or down for the 284? Jun 12, 2017 #1 Looking for data especially with Re17 and the 168SMK. Big Mistake! All the loads are developed by the staff of Handloader magazine and the archives of Handloader and Rifle magazines. The 6mmBR pilots could run off five shots before I could shoot two. Having been in this situation before it really made me concentrate on the last 5 shots. NOTE: Photo depicts duplicate "display" target with white markers showing bullet points of impact on record target.). Building a Record-Breaking F-Classer Ray informed me that by the end of the day he would have the pillars installed and the barreled action bedded. Andy informed me that this had happened to him with several rifles. winchester (in stock) 0.0. Anyone have data for precision shooting over long range? Gun: Savage Model 111; Barrel Length: 24 inches; Case: Hornady; Primer: Remington 9 1/2 Large Rifle; Bullet Diameter: .264 inch; Maximum COAL: 2.800 inches; Maximum Case Length: 2.170 inches; Trim to Length: 2.160 inches. The first step was to cut the chamber and crown. This means I typically shoot 120 to 150 rounds on average between barrel cleanings. The .284 is able to drive 160 grain bullets … Now don’t get me wrong, at 22 pounds with a decelerator recoil pad, the .284 is comfortable to shoot. Project Notes--Building the Ultimate F-Classer In several previous matches I was clean through 15 shots and ended up dropping a point or two at the end of the string. For whatever reason, between 100 to 300 rounds, as the barrel gets broken-in, the velocity climbs significantly.. Andy told me if I loaded back to the previous velocity, in his experience, it would stay there. Load Data. FTX® 308 Winchester 125 gr. peterson cartridge (in stock) 5.0 (2) 308 winchester brass. charge weight in grams and grains as well as muzzle velocity in meters and feet per second. The first order of business was to get the action ordered, knowing how long it would take to get a BAT left bolt, right port action, plus scope rail, and trigger guard. Reloading Depot RNWRKNP Sophisticated Redneck. My face rests on the stock and my shoulder is placed firmly into the buttplate. Cleaning Procedures The .284 Winchester is a lower popularity cartridge that has enjoyed resurgence due to interest from long-range competitive shooters. Houston--We Have a Problem We comparison-tested a 6.5-284 rifle launching 142 SMKs at 2975 fps, a 300 WSM rifle firing 210 Bergers at 2850 fps, and my .284 Winchester shooting 180 Bergers at 2900 fps. At this point I began working with different primers, neck tension and seating depth. With the Right Bolt, Left Port action, I can shoot the entire match with minimal movement. This load gave us 2910 fps velocity with an Extreme Spread (ES) of 7 fps and a Standard Deviation (SD) of 3 fps over ten (10) shots. The barreled action and butt plate were removed and the bedding was taped off. Sighter Strategies I considered the Leupold competition scopes but ultimately decided on the Nightforce BR. After I get the feedback I need from my sighters it's time to go for record. Cost Comparison: .284 Win vs. 6.5-284 Three-Minute Prep Period 7.8 g / 120 gr. I started calling anyone I could thing of to see if they had any idea what could be causing this problem. 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