And, medium brown doesn’t look good…it comes out too red, especially on red oak. Furthermore, the floors aren’t protected from water (or pet accidents). When stained, you will get some of the natural warmth of the wood coming through. If so, feel free to buy me a coffee and support my blog. You may find 7 to 1 or 9 to 1 or 11 to 1 works…just test until you like the color. The right oak is on top and the white oak on the bottom. Is there a special bleach that is used? Of course going darker will cover up the red better, so it is a trade off. Thanks for the quick response. So water based poly in this instance is the best way to go. I have a rather large area to cover which will take several quantities of ebony and white to cover (i.e gallons, or whatever). Your email address will not be published. Then buff, then 2nd coat Bona Traffic. country white, etc.) I hope that helps. As a homeowner, you can do the repair yourself, and you don’t need to sand and refinish. My client has American Cherry floors and she would like a gray white washed floor. This will closely resemble the look of Black Walnut, however you will not have all the same variations in colour and tones that this wood offers. If you are doing this yourself, you can buy both…and try both to see which you prefer. HI Flooring Girl, I so glad to stumble on your blog. Shop color stains and dyes for your hardwood floor project at City Floor Supply, your leading distributor for wood floor finishes and color effects. Anyway, thanks! You can see an example of this material with our Special Walnut stain on our "Cambria" Dining Table. It sounds like the contractor didn’t apply stain correctly nor use right poly. There are pros and cons with using tung oil (or similar products). Terry – No, you don’t. I have brand new straight grain white oak floors and am going for a relatively light grey floor. WAIT! It’s the top coat that will give it the final sheen. I have learned so much about flooring with all the information on your blog. That does help confirm my process, thank you. This hardwood will have warmer tones and a more visible grain pattern than Eastern Maple. Hi i have a white oak floor and want to stain it gray. Minwax Performance Series Tintable Wood Stain is available in 40 colors. But, be sure to use Bona Traffic on top of it. If he can’t mix, try dark walnut, antique brown and coffee brown. DOWNLOAD YOUR FLOOR TIMELINE HERE! White wash costs a bit more, and water based poly costs a bit more. Trying to figure out if I need more than one. Thanks for your instructions. Nick – You’re welcome. Every place I ask says its not from China or they say it is but that the regulations have changed and it’s safe. Though it is a softwood, we do add several durable clear coats for a hard finish to help protect against everyday wear and tear. When I bought and installed the floors they were pre-finished with an espresso brown color. Oh gosh, you really need to test it. Thanks! We have found doing an ebony/white mix works best and/or mixing in some true black. It came out like paint to me! I just found your other page where you put a link to the DuraSeal. Do I buff or anything before applying the poly? Thanks for your quick response, Debbie! We find this material works best with walnut stains, or darker stain colours since there is so much warmth in the wood. What do you recommend for wood choice and stain? You need to periodically treat the floors with more oil. Can I use one of those flat sanding pads that hook to the pole to lightly sand between poly coats with 220 grit instead of getting a buffer machine? 3. with ebony + white, you can suit to your own taste. Internet #: 206386411. Every single piece of wood took on a gray hue including the red oak. I would guess that it would be slightly easier on American Walnut than Brazilian walnut, but that is simply speculation. Thanks for your responses! Dry how long before putting the Bona traffic? They will come back tomorrow and put on a 3rd and 4th I believe. Water Based Wood Stain Water Based Paints, Pearl Effects & Glazes. Your alternative is simply to go deeper in the gray. I would use a combo of ebony and a white was and test it. Do I need to order it from their website as I can’t find anyone that has it. I think most of them are using Classic Gray and other premixed colors from Minwax or Duraseal. We have occasionally done country white, but Bona white looks better. I guess most of my questions are in the buffing/screening process. That’s definitely an option, but it won’t solve the red issue. felt pads, vent covers, Hardwood supplies e.g. I’m not ever sure of the stains anymore. Bona Traffic will look the best by far – both when applied and over time. A few places were tough to blend since I have never stained before and took me about half way through before I had it down and learned how long to let it sit, wipe away drop marks right away and whatnot. Eastern Pine will come with lots of knots in the wood, so if you prefer a knot-free option you may consider upgrading to Oak, Maple, Cherry or Black Walnut. It will probably last an extra 2 to 3 years and hold up better to scratches. felt pads, doggie socks, Ebook – What to look for when buying a home with hardwood. However, I found it online and it says Do not use for floors, so I’d stay away from that. Dave – You have to combine the mix in a different can. I mean 7 parts white to 1 part ebony, BTW. Fast drying formula dries in 1 hour and uses nano pigments to offer superior color and coverage. You may want to look around for a contractor who is more confident in this arena and has more experience with grays and mixes. Usually my guys can install 1000 sf in a day, so installation should have only been a few days. If you can’t do that, then do a darker gray or ditch the gray and go for a traditional gray. Sorry that I’m just getting to this now. And what kind of poly would you use? Also how many coats of the stain do you recommend to put down? I hope that helps. It is on the lighter side. In general, their gray mixes are very liquidity. That might look good. LC – Sorry about the delay. Water poly is thinner than oil based so you are feeling the roughness more and this is also another reason you want at least 3 coats. When was the house built? OK, so I have white oak and want a dark gray stain. I don’t know your definition of “dark gray.” That being said, you want to reverse your ratios…so it would be 7 parts WHITE to 1 part EBONY. It just lasts longer than traditional Bona and other water based polyurethanes. my eyes are confuse (hahaha). I’m so glad to hear that! This material does come with some knots in the wood that we fill, however this will also make it the most cost effective hardwood option. If you prefer a knot-free hardwood, we recommend upgrading to Maple, Oak, Cherry or Black Walnut. Fast dry wood stain creates rich color that dries in 1 hour. He is suggesting re-sanding and bleaching the floors until they get to a more uniform base and then re-staining (to achieve a more uniform gray look). Thank you so much for your site and blog. I’m not sure what you’re asking with the browns. And, don’t use the cheaper poly…it won’t last as long. It sounds like you are going very light based on that mix. Very minimal marketing or even chips, so my guy hadn’t even heard of them. It looks more natural and a bit more rustic. I would strongly recommend Bona Traffic HD (see this blog post: https://theflooringgirl.com/hardwood-flooring/which-are-the-best-polyurethane-brands-for-floors-which-do-i-recommend.html. But, it depends how light you want to go. Yes, believe it or not, gray hardwood flooring is in style! Liz – I understand your concern with the bleach. We did a gray mix on around 3000 sf and didn’t have an issue (as well as others that were 1000-2000 sf. Claudia – It depends what you mean by dark brown hardwood floors. The other issue you may be having is the ingredients being used. We have never done gray on brazilian walnut. Hello Flooring girl! But, I would not expect this to work out well on Cherry…you are between a rock and a hard place. see this article on why duraseal over minwax and where to get it: https://theflooringgirl.com/hardwood-flooring/minwax-vs-duraseal-stain-better-hardwood-floors.html. We can however add a tint to the furniture if you would like a more even finsih. On red oak, you’ll probably want to do a mid to darker gray to hide the red undertones. I had a question as to how to proceed. But, there are some downsides to the oiled floors. I have not seen True Black on American Cherry, so not sure how it would come out. We were thinking of bleaching the floors first which we also thought might lead to a more uniform flooring color. And, you may not love the other options (based on your comment). Did you find my tips helpful? He was said to be done today and we went in and the whole floor turned yellow! I have red oak floors? 95 Do not use oil based poly – that makes it darker and more yellow and will look terrible and will look worse over time. What’s the difference? Wait at least 3-4 hrs. Oh and it shouldn’t matter if there if you have select grade or No 1. They were doing exactly what you said and the floors turned out great. Thank you for shedding light on the best browns to get the red out. Floor guys did gray stain mixed white gray and black … stain on bullnose stairs look like paint instead of stain how can we fix before applying poly? After all, refinishing hardwood floors can be rather inconvenient as you need to move all the furniture and often vacate the house. Because these woods are closed pored, they absorb the stains differently and some of the darker brown stains turn gray on maple and birch (see picture to the right). 6 months to 1 year), it won’t look the same. Eric – This would not be my inclination. A much easier and safer option is to do a darker color. They are too watery and do not come out well. Hello Debbie. I don’t want to go so dark that we have dust-showing issues, but need a bit on the darker side of medium to contrast the cabs. Varathane 1 qt. If you don’t like to spend a lot of time on touch ups, and instead prefer a floor with less maintenance, then use Bona Traffic HD (note: Bona Traffic is also environmentally friendly). Test with and without water pop. Again if you are interested in a gray stain, see 5 gray stain options and for white stain, white wood stain options. If they are old pine, they may need to sand, add conditioner, then apply stain. Claire – You can certainly try it with medium brown. The bigger concern that I’ve warned my customers about is that if they do some now and some later (e.g. Stain Color. Varathane 8 oz. If you try this on pine, I’d suggest a deep gray to wash out the yellows (and note: these floors will get more yellow over time as the pine ages). Apply final coat. When it comes to gray, we use Duraseal ebony and Bona White. Generally the bleach drowns out the pink tones so it’s more of clean slate (not necessarily beachy). My husband and I are currently in the middle of remodeling our downstairs. Your mix sounds a bit more complicated and we did something similar using maybe 4 colors and did it for 1000 sf and my guys weren’t concerned. I first applied a coat of Minwax Pre-Stain wood conditioner to all the pieces, except the first block. Cherry offers a straight grain and an even texture. doing a coat of oil and then a coat of water or vice versa). I am in the process of refinishing and staining my Brazilian walnut floors. (Note: some people love this, others don’t). You definitely can use tung oil or Rubio monocoat for gray hardwood floors, but it’s generally not my first choice. Have you ever done a 50/50 ebony and country white on red oak? We strongly recommend Bona Traffic HD poly for this effect (see below on where to buy). Sku #: 1001547640. We’re planning to get rid of the living room carpet next Spring and I would love to go with grey – but I’m not sure it would look good with birch doors and window trim. Sand 80/100 grit Do you think we could get away with duraseal medium-brown and then add the gray ratios you laid out? Eliz – Those were done a couple of years ago and I don’t remember the ratios, but most likely we did 3:1, 5:1, 7:1, 9:1. I emailed Bona and asked them where to get the white and they directed me to a Denver distributor as well as this website which was free shipping after $75.00 or something. Have tried minwax and other stains with no luck. In the above pictures, you see different ratios of white:ebony. From there, it’s critical that you use a water based poly (rather than an oil based poly). Plus, you would probably need to use Bona Traffic on them. In the far right picture, the sample on the right is 3 parts white to 1 ebony, middle is 5:1, left is 4:1. My contractor wants to mux duraseal classic gray and country white. Hello, You have some beautiful floors on your site. Eastern Pine will come with lots of knots in the wood, so if you prefer a knot-free option you may consider upgrading to Oak… This gives the wood a unique patina and texture. It’s not the best for wood, especially if it’s not applied properly. We’ll definitely try dark walnut, but curious if you prefer coffee brown to medium brown for red oak to lessen the red? Hi Lisa. Our swatches are very true to colour, but can also be viewed in person at our showroom in Abbotsford, BC. I really appreciate it. For the gray part, I would use Duraseal Ebony + Bona White (neither Minwax nor Duraseal are good for whites…they are too watery…and their premixed grays are also too watery. Model #710980000. Wish my floor guy were more interested in working with me (stuck with him as he’s GC guy), but he’s asked me to pick 3-4 cans at most. It costs more than your standard type of refinishing (read below to understand why), but for those looking for the stylish gray look, it’s well worth it. Is there something different for the stairs? he sanded my white oak floors to the bare original conditon, is there alight stain color you can possibly recommend. Also when he puts the poly finish layer on it seems darker. In this scenario, how would one protect the inlaid walnut from the bleach since there is oak, which would need to be bleached, on either side? 2. Each piece was sanded with 150 grit sandpaper, and was not treated with any kind of wood … And, it should be duraseal ebony. Aug 14, 2019 - I tested the new General Finishes Gel stains on golden oak cabinet doors. PS: If you want to test a section with bleach, you might see if there is a closet you can do it in, or under refrigerator or something…i.e. The floors turned out better then i anticipated. And, yes, I know it’s so annoying that Bona doesn’t have their white stain on Amazon. The highest grit you should use before the stain is 100. If you don’t, you floors will look pinkish. This is great advice! I asked my contractor for a sample of bona white and duraseal ebony. It won’t work. I am looking to get 4″ unfinished white oak select. Thanks for the help. The biggest disadvantage is that they can be more difficult to maintain. You would need to go a darker gray than an oak due to all the extra red. Hardwood supplies – e.g. I wanted to stain them gray, and after the flooring guy did a few samples on my floor, I chose Bona Dri Fast stain in Grey. Be careful with the wood species. Is there any way to recover without sanding and repainting/restaining? We are going to install white oak flooring and want a natural wood look with no staining or amberizing. However, if you mean that you have a different species that is naturally dark (e.g. I built my own wood floor out of douglas fir 1×6 and wanted to stain it grey . One last question (I’m sorry), I’m having difficulty finding oil based white wash. Thank you so much for your help. Yes, I seem be getting a lot of questions about this, and it seems that the common thread is that many have used Mixwax or Duraseal Classic Gray. Thank you! I would not worry about it being too hard to clean/showing dirt…because you can just add more white. I am having a white oak piece of furniture made. I used two coats to really enhance the… I really like the stain options you have shown on the picture with red oak on top and white oak on the bottom. Find one here. Also, it’s okay to use an oil based stain and water borne poly. The higher number is white and the lower number is ebony. But, I think it’s very risky on Cherry, especially as the cherries (both American and Brazilian) are more oily, so I would expect problems. If you are getting prefinished oak and it’s solid, chances are it’s from the US (as that’s where it’s grown and it wouldn’t make much sense to get from China. Carbon Grey Dyed Oak Wood Veneer. We did some test squares mixing duraseal country white and classic grey in different parts, but there always seemed to be some yellow undertones coming through. So maybe see if you can try this in 1 room and see if you like it. First, you’ll need to do a bleach to drown out the red. With gray, you just need to test it. Happy holidays! Instead, create a custom blend of white and ebony. I will keep you posted. However, with a 50/50 blend it may be dark enough to camouflage the pink undertones. Can you stain Brazilian cherry grey? I will check them out (hopefully later this week). Thanks for stopping by and letting me know. If that’s the issue, you can offer to buy the other cans (e.g. It looks like you found a water based stain and those are very challenging to use, especially for novices, anyway. Cherry is a beautiful hardwood that has lots of natural red undertones tones to it. Test the stains carefully (before applying). Wood Finish Water-Based Stain Tinsmith Gray Interior Stain … Is that he doesn’t want to pay for more cans of stain to test? I would like the boards to have a mix of light and dark boards, but not rustic looking, few knots. But, I would try to go to a flooring store to make sure you have the right item and best quality. Is it really going to make it look that much nicer? In the left photo is 7:1. It has a straight, tight grain that is quite textured. If we do go with the bleaching of the oak, do we need to be careful not to bleach the walnut? Want to see the floor cleaning products I recommend? So far, everything has pink tones. White Oak is often used in Scandinavian furniture designs with either a Natural or Whitewashed finish. I will ask my contractor which products he used. Thanks so much for everything. You would want to mix stains using ebony and white for the gray and then some form of brown e.g. The 2 main solutions are 1) go a bit darker (i.e. This prevents liquids from penetrating; oiled floors don’t have that same level of protection. We’ve done this a few times…and sometimes, it may take 10 or more mixes. then Bona Traffic 1 coat. I think they’re only planning to use water base. Just brush it on and let it set for about 20 minutes, then you can apply the stain of your choice. You’ll have to look at that to make sure. Thanks a lot! Hi Liz. and, it will cost you more. I’m finally ready to refinish my floors this weekend. Your guy will have to be patient. Hi ! I don’t think this will ever come out looking good…unless you go very dark. It weakens it. This is the only product we use with gray or white washed floors. BTW, if you do 7 parts ebony to 1 part white, it will pretty much look like ebony. Which duraseal browns have a green tint? Would bleaching my floors give it that weathered, beachy look that I don’t care for? Thanks! Required fields are marked *. And, will need to mix the recipes on site and adjust…especially with red oak. i’m using varathane 2 in 1 wood stain and polyurethane. And we are finally putting in wood flooring, which we’ve always wanted. Comparison of Carbon Gray and Ash Gray Gel Stain vs. Graystone and Graphite Water Based Wood Stain Vs. Driftwood Milk Paint I hope this makes sense. Steve – First, you’ll want to test it. 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