I’ve enjoyed carrying both iron-sights lever-actions, and trust my life to 405-grain Remington Core-Lokt, and 430-grain Buffalo Bore cartridges. Bigger isnât always better when it comes to picking a cartridge for moose hunting. But, for a very light kicking round, with a hard hitting bullet, this can’t be beat. As an Alaskan, I’ve seen a number of moose taken with a variety of cartridges. cow moose with my 338 Federal. Mag. Bullet ws a 210 Nosler Partition, range was about 70 yards. 200 grain interlock would be the last bullet i'd choose for hunting in Alaska. I'll be hunting moose in area 20A. There are very few other calibers where you can easily buy factory ammo with bullet weights that vary by a factor of two, from 110 to 220 grains. Wag more, bark less. It is not a 338 Win Mag. Picking the 10 âbestâ or most favorable cartridges for hunting any animal is a highly subjective and challenging task. Mag., but the recoil of a .270 Win. Take your moose hunt to the next level! Mag., has made this round a no-brainer choice for me. Takes a variety of bullets form 160 up. .338-06I’m writing a new rifle book dedicated to this subject, so you can definitely say I’m partial to a round that delivers speed near that of a .338 Win. As I said in my cartridge intro for the 8th Edition of the Nosler Reload Guide, “If I have to choose a single rifle, my ‘shoot everything’ rifle, even if I’ll be running into one of my angry neighbors that others call a coastal brown bear, it’ll be the .338-06 A-Square.”. The 338 federal is a great round and would be best with a 225 grain partition or swift a-frame. Privacy Policy • Contact Us • Warnings • FAQs • © 2020 National Rifle Association of America, Cork Graham has been covering guns and hunting since 1983, when he asked for an LOA from his NROTC squadron at UC Berkeley, and headed to SEA to cover wars as an 18-year-old photojournalist. and Alberta. I use a 200 gr plain jane bullet with tac powder ( a load i got from handloader magazine) it is a superb round and perfect for any game in alaska as long as good bullet placement is practiced. Supersite offers several membership levels. The bullet passed through the ribs/lungs and left a fist sized hole exiting the animal. The thing that most will not agree on is my pet load is a 200 gr. The bigger the animal, the more heated that debate tends to be. I too have purchased a 338 federal in a ruger hawkeye for a short mountain rifle. Either one of these fine cartridges would be very suitable for moose hunting or for hunting of moose sized game. To post to our forums, please register. I think the only thing I have loaded for it yet is a 200 gr SST with a BC of .455 it should be a great long range bullet. 300-grain Hornady DGX and Nosler Partitions are my favorites, making complete pass-throughs and easy-to-follow blood trails a reward, with surprisingly low meat damage. I have taken 3 6 point bulls with this round all one shot kills and two of them at extended range. The only thing a writer can do is respond with the most consistent rounds. About the AuthorCork Graham has been covering guns and hunting since 1983, when he asked for an LOA from his NROTC squadron at UC Berkeley, and headed to SEA to cover wars as an 18-year-old photojournalist. Register The men who wrote the Second Amendment didn't just finish a ⦠Purchase and Download for $19.99 at the following links: Apple Devices. Most .338 Federal factory loads have more kinetic energy than the .358 Winchester at all ranges. (elk and moose). 30-06/180 LM, 375 H&H/300SBT, 338/185XLC. E-mail your comments/questions about this site to: EmediaHunter@nrahq.org, For questions/comments about American Hunter magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org, You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Hunter, visit nramediakit.com for more information. .300 Winchester MagnumA strong following for this round in Alaska. If you handle it well, go for it! Somewhere along the way I have lost the ability to act politically correct. I still haven't experimented with different powders to find the optimum performance (I've got some RL19 to try), but it does well enough with my Winchester 760 powder for now. Think Tikka Lite in 338 Fed. 3. The Alaska Moose Hunting Guidebook is now available for Apple devices and for Amazon Kindle. .375 RugerThis is the modern improved answer to the old Alaskan’s .375 H&H standby. .35 WhelenThis round has a definite following in Alaska, and is one of friend and colleague Bryce Towsley’s favorites. Performance is on a par with 30-06 but often in a lighter and handier rifle. I'm using the .225 gr. Now personally, I prefer the .338-06 just because I have more space to work with powder loads. This round performs best as loaded from the factory where proprietary powders are used to make it acheive its higher velocities and pressures. I use the 200 grain FTX bullet, it has been very effective in both kills. Elk in none bear country maybe. Not earth shattering figures, but nearly identical to 30/06 numbers and it makes a .338 diameter hole; what's not to like? It is also an excellent killer, as i've killed a couple of moose, 2 blackies and 2 caribou with mine with quick 1 shot kills. Some you may find surprising. I would use any of those loads to shoot elk out to 350yds or so. The number of people who purchased all those boxes could be counted on one hand. Are there any Alaskans using the 338 Federal for Bears or Moose ???? Send a 200- to 250-grain A-Frame, AccuBond or Nosler Partition from this round and you’ve got powerful moose medicine. Only a few weeks later, it was gone. With the number of bullets available that dwarf the list of those for the .35 Whelen, and the fact that I can send 200 grain .338 only 200 fps slower than the same bullet in a .338 Win. Yes, the .338 Lapua Magnum is A GOOD CHOICE for moose hunting, under average conditions, from a mid-range distance, with a medium grain expanding bullet, and with correct shot placement. The Rangemaster 338 rifle is the second most powerful rifle in the game. of energy at the muzzle (perfect for deer). Loosing almost all of a front quarter of a moose, there are better choices. It operates at higher pressure than the 358 winchester and is therefore better at 2oo + yards. The author is right about the 6.5 Creed I own two in AR10s and neither gets the nod for moose. Friday, February 17, 2017. All times are GMT-9. Thatâs not surprising given the largest-bodied moose tend to come from the countryâs western and northern extremes, and that these areas also have grizzly bears sharing much of the same habitat. Medium bore rifles should launch medium weight bullets, most 30 caliber rifles will launch a 210 grn bullet at 2500 FPS and the ballistics are repeatable from the reloading bench. “Gird your loins,” is the warning given any writer attempting to list the best cartridges for any type of hunting. On average, the .338 Win Mag delivers more energy to the target and penetrates deeper than the .300 Win Mag. The Hornady 200 gr Interlock SP has an excellent reputation on game in the 338/06, so at 100-200 fps less it should really penetrate well, and costs less than half what their GMX bullet does. While the .338 Win. More Savage Arms rifles chambered in .338 Federal Wilson Combat has also recently released the Recon Tactical .338 Federal AR. Although i've shot a large number of various factory rifles, i say unequivically that the ruger hawkeye is the finest factory rifle for the best price in the world. I think the real potential of the .338 Federal cartridge is going to be measured when it is matched against game animals the size of elk, black bear, and moose. He’s presently the team leader on Discovery Channel’s, Remington Model 700 American Hunter Rifle Project, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Large Mountain Lion Spotted Outside Dallas, Head to Head: .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield, Head to Head: .444 Marlin vs. .45-70 Government, 2020 National Rifle Association of America. forums are viewable by anyone, and may be read by clicking the forum headings The .308 Winchester is by far the most popular out of the bunch. trophy bonded tip. When the Alaska gold rush picked up in earnest with the Klondike in 1899, those who had the money and wisdom brought their Winchester 1886s and Marlin 1895s: they shot a much better round for putting moose on the table than the .30-30 and .38-55, and such, of the time. .375 H&HHunters do like to bring much bigger rounds to Alaska and Canada in their search for that wall-hanger Bullwinkle. Released in 2006 as a joint venture between Federal and Sako, the .338 Federal may be one of the wisest choices that the big-game hunter who likes a lightweight, sweet-shooting short-action rifle could make. If you should find it, please feel free to keep it. Mag. .300 H&HMaster Alaska guide and longtime outdoor writer Phil Shoemaker, owner of Grizzly Skins of Alaska, has this to say, “There are no particularly bad cartridges but only improperly using them for unsuitable chores. This 360-page book is a great resource for any Alaska moose hunter, regardless of experience level. Let`s put the 338 Federal in proper context or perspective. The contents of the Alaska Outdoors Supersite On the flip side, the .338 Federal produces just 23.9 foot-pounds of recoil, compared to a shoulder-smashing 36.1 for the Win. As Federal's initial infomercial advises, "It gives big game hunters a larger diameter bullet for more weight and overall energy on target without magnum recoil . The .338 Federal was released in collaboration with the Sako rifle company of Finland. moose hunting rifle by: Lance I've only shot two moose one with a 300 wby and one with a 338 rcm the wby was 180 gr speer bullet and the 338 was a 250 barnes the 338 was much more impressive and my next moose will be with the 338 hands down The 338-08, a 308 Winchester necked up to hold a .338 bullet was the cartridge the .338 Federal was modeled after and with some minor modifications it became what it is today. Factory-loaded with 180-, 185- and 210-grain bullets, it delivers between 1,820 and 1,920 ft-lbs at 300 yards, with an average bullet drop of less than nine inches (200-yard zero). Making this round questionable as an improvement on any medium bore. :think: I have a chance to buy one in a Ruger Hawkeye cheap and am thinging about it but cant really find jack on how people have accepted it on larger game like Moose Bears or Elk so thought I would post this as all I can find from gunwriters reviews is the standard junk of them shooting a pig or tame deer in Texas that weigh about 125lbs . Like the .338-06, it’s a reloader’s dream: beaucoup bullet options, and .308 Win. On that T&E, I learned a lot about stock design and distribution of rifle weight from muzzle to shoulder—choose wisely. Please use performance out to 400 yards, without the recoil of magnum rounds. Once the round hits the reloading bench the numbers suffer pretty dramatically. I use Federal 200 gr. It is incredibly easy to make for 308 family cases so there is never an ammo problem for handloaders. Alaska Outdoors Ask most Alaskans about their favorite and the â.338 Win Magâ is the answer you get, next to .30-06 and .300 Win. .338 Winchester MagnumI don’t know about you, but for some reason, next to a .50 BMG, I seem to get my noggin rattled by just about every rifle I’ve shot this in, except for the Winchester Model 70 Extreme Weather SS I’ve learned to love because of a well-designed Bell & Carlson stock that makes it a pleasure to shoot. Any more bullet weight than that, you loose velocity big time, and you'd be better served to gravitate towards a 358 winchester if you intend to shoot 250 grain bullets or larger. In Outdoor Canadaâs 2010 survey of 75 moose guides from across the country, 35 per cent listed the .300 Win. I once tested two rifles in .375 H&H: one was the Winchester Model 70 Safari Express, which was a true pleasure to shoot. I only hunt with lever action rifles so the Marlin 338 Express is a good choice. . I’ve even nicknamed it “Thor,” because I love carrying and shooting it so much. The .338 Federal is a reprieve from such nonsense. I have one that is wonderfully light and it shoot Tikka good too. In the shooting that I've done with the .338 Federal/Sako combination I found the felt recoil quite manageable. interlock in my .338/06 wildcat with good results, it's leaving my muzzle at 2750 fps. by Mac (Washougal, Wa. The .338 is most unpleasant to shoot unless the rifle has a muzzle brake installed (.338 ammunition costs more too). The American .30 calibers, from the .30-30 and .308 through the .30-06 and various .300 magnums with all the great bullet choices available, seem to be less affected by those problems than most other calibers. Here are some performance numbers. I am trying to decide if I will carry a 338 Win Mag or a 300 Win Mag. Ask most Alaskans about their favorite and the “.338 Win Mag” is the answer you get, next to .30-06 and .300 Win. Another caliber that is an excellent choice for moose hunting is the .338 Federal with 180-grain bullets. Examples are the .338 Marlin Express, .338 Federal, .338-06, .348 Winchester, .358 Winchester, .35 Whelen, .350 Rem. Welcome! .45-70The .45-70 is my moose and bear defense round when I’m at gold camp, or out picking berries. These medium and big bore cartridges strike a solid blow as long as the range is not excessive. Now, I have a little 22"bbl 338 Federal. I have confidence to shoot large animals with this round in my rifle. Mag. Long range moose cartridges. Letâs look at those assumptions a bit closer in the following table. "I do not deal in hypotheticals. There will always be exceptions, like the Eskimo who thinks nothing of taking a polar bear with an AR-15, or that tiger shot in the head with a .22 long-rifle. That pretty much sums it up: a great moose round with a very defined following. mod. Apr 22, 2016 #8 OP . I've booked my first trip to AK for next September. Mag. I am not comfortable shooting game over about 800yds at this time. John, I took a ~600 lb. It shoots well with 160TTSX, 185TSX, 180NAB and the 200 Fusion. 308 Winchester vs 358 Winchester vs 338 Federal Ammo . Cartridge information gathered from www.federalpremium.com as their top choice for the best moose cartridge, although several noted it was only their top choice if the hunter could handle the associated recoil. I've taken grizzly and moose with the 338 Fed and Federal 210 NPs. the same username and password for all areas. 88 in .338 Federal with a 22" barrel. .338 FederalJJ Reich at Federal Premium introduced me to this round a couple years ago, in the Savage Arms Bear Hunter, when I was just starting to work on my rifle book about the .338-06 and was keen to try another cartridge that is also a wildcat based on a military round. Mag. Built on the .308 case and ânecked-upâ to hold a .338-diameter bullet, the load offers hunters a faster muzzle velocity than traditional favorites like the .308 Win., with a heavier bullet to boot. I figure if the magnum will kill like that at over 400 yards the federal should be great in less open country. Takes a variety of bullets form 160 up. You also will not need to spend the money on premium bullets. 14 year old takes his once in a life time Moose at 1258 yards. your account management area, forums and University require login. Two-hundred grains out of this round will put a bear or moose on the ground efficiently. One-hundred-and-eighty AccuBond and Bear Claws are my choice, while other Alaskans prefer to send 200 grains. Fly-in hunt. It operates at higher pressure than the 358 winchester and is therefore better at 2oo + yards. Considered by some ballistic experts to be the ideal cartridge for North American big game, the .338 Federal is also known for superb accuracy and stopping power in a controllable package. If anything, they’re a reminder that any good bullet, in a solid caliber, sent on its way with enough speed into the animal’s vitals can do an excellent job. It’s flat shooting and with a 180-grain or 200-grain bullet it packs a punch. Bullet selection for the .338 ranges from 200 to 300 grains. Send a 200- to 250-grain A-Frame, AccuBond or Nosler Partition from this round and youâve got powerful moose medicine. Learn more! Mag. Register It can easily kill large animals such as Bisons or Moose with one shot. Just a month before moose season a whole table in sporting goods section of a large Alaska discount retailer in Kenai was stacked with case after case of Core-Lokt .35 Whelen. for a free forum account | Upgrade to a Supporting Forum Membership |. It is incredibly easy to make for 308 family cases so there is never an ammo problem for handloaders. for a free forum account | Upgrade to a Supporting Forum Membership | Manage Your Account/Update Password. Once you insert bullets heavier than 210 grns in it the ballistics don't come near the 338-06 or Whelen. The downfall of the .338 is recoil. Get magnum performance in a lightweight, short-action cartridge with the 338 Federal load from Federal Premium® Ammunition. He’s presently the team leader on Discovery Channel’s Treasure Quest. I am concerned that it might blow up and not penetrate too well on elk or moose so I think my hunting load will be a nosler partition in 210 gr and a BC of .400...still a good long range bullet. Elkmasterwyo Senior Member. 338 Federal Load Data; 338-06 A-Square Load Data; 338 Winchester Magnum Load Data; 330 Dakota Load Data; 340 Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 338 Remington Ultra Magnum Load Data; 338 Lapua Magnum Load Data; 338-378 Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 358 Winchester Load Data; 350 Remington Magnum Load Data; 35 Whelen Load Data; 358 Norma Magnum Load Data USA) I shoot a rebarreled win. Jim Hammill from Crystal Falls, Michigan, used a 180-grain Nosler AccuBond bullet out of his .338 to collect his first bull in British Columbia during the fall of 2012, and he was extremely satisfied with their performance. It does very well for what is was designed to do. Wilson Combat Recon Tactical .338 Federal AR. My reloads produce 2600 fps with 200 grain Hornady SP and 2450+ with 225 Hornady SP from a 22 inch barrel. The ballistics are even better than that of its grandfather, and in shorter action: it will fit the action of a .30-06. by Cork Graham - To qualify statements, the the .338 Federal was promoted as having more muzzle energy than the .30-06 and that the .338 generated 200fps more velocity than the parent .308 Winchester cartridge with bullets of equal weight. brass is everywhere—just run the .338 Federal resizing ball through it. I use a 200 gr plain jane bullet with tac powder ( a load i got from handloader magazine) it is a superb round and perfect for any game in alaska as long as good bullet placement is practiced. Nosler ballistic tip over imr 4350 powder in my pre 64 mod 70 it shoots sub moa and kills without much loss of meat. Joined Oct 21, 2012 Messages 479 Location Lyman, WY. For your security, I think the 338 federal is a fantastic cartridge, also highly underated. 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